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Leslie's Voyage to Mental Clarity and Gut Health Mastery

• Coach Rob • Season 1 • Episode 64

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From a shy child to a groundbreaking health coach, Leslie Bob shares her extraordinary journey and insights on bridging nutrition with optimal brain function. Listen to her inspiring story of resilience—how she transformed from a single mom on welfare into a powerhouse advocate for nutrition and lifestyle changes that elevate personal and professional potential. Leslie's experiences reveal the transformative power of simple dietary shifts, emphasizing how critical it is to nurture our bodies through diet, movement, and restorative sleep.

Unlock the secrets of improving mental clarity and focus by choosing the right foods. Leslie provides an in-depth look into how dietary choices significantly impact conditions like ADHD, autism, and schizophrenia, shedding light on the vital role of the microbiome. For those new to this transformative path, learn why real foods reign supreme and how bone broth might just become your gut health champion. Leslie's personalized approach respects the unique nutritional needs of each individual, fostering a natural path to healing and enhanced performance.

Our conversation with Leslie also explores practical strategies for integrating healthy eating into even the busiest lifestyles. From the occasional use of probiotics during travel to setting specific goals, discover how intentionality and commitment can revolutionize your health journey. We delve into the empowering philosophy of taking ownership of one's health, urging you to become the expert of your well-being. Embrace the three Ps—permission, purpose, and practice—as you navigate setbacks with grace and understanding, realizing that true wellness begins with personal accountability.

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Rob:

What's going on everybody? Today we've got Leslie on. Leslie, we've known each other for a little while through Brand Builders Group. We've connected at a couple of events and it's great to finally have you on the show so we can connect and share a little bit about your story. But how have you been? I know we talked a little bit briefly before we started recording, but how's it going?

Leslie:

It's a wild ride. So, as you and probably most of your listeners know, it can be quite the journey, just a lifing in general, but especially if you're trying to run a business too and life just has its own plans, and this year has been one of those years for me. But I'm still here, I'm still blessed to be able to carry on with what I'm passionate about and I'm getting back in the zone. So, all in all, I guess I'm good, I'm doing really good.

Rob:

Love that. Awesome. Good to hear that going for you too. So why don't you give a little introduction about who you are? Who do you help, kind of thing?

Leslie:

introduction about who you are. Who do you help, kind of thing? Yeah, sure so I'm Leslie Bob. I am working in a partnership company called Nourish to Amplify. I've teamed up with a good friend and colleague of mine and we help high performers achieve the vitality and longevity that they want in life so that they can get out there at 100% themselves and perform their mission in this world. We help people generally who have kind of been struggling with problems with their health and they've hit a wall and it's time for them to do something about it so that they can show up and serve the people they were put here to serve. We do that through nutrition and lifestyle coaching predominantly, and very much into some of the stuff that you teach as well. So we're really into nutrition, we're really into moving your body, getting enough sleep, just taking care of this vehicle that we're housed in while we're here to amplify what we're able to get and put into the world to amplify what we're able to get and put into the world.

Rob:

Nice, yeah, I love that, and that was partially why I'm excited to have you on, because we have a lot of similarities in the things that we're teaching and doing with our clients and friends. So how about a little bit? How'd you get into what you're doing currently?

Leslie:

That's a fun question, because as a kid I never would have been voted the one most likely to get up in front of people to talk. I was the kid that always like hid behind my mom's leg when she was trying to introduce me to people. And now I just love being on stage, being in front of people and talking to them. But it didn't come naturally, so to speak. I wasn't born into this. I talked to people about food and the impact it has on your body, but growing up as an 80s kid I like to say I'm a recovering 80s kid my three square meals came in rectangles and most of them had craft written on them, so I didn't grow up on a farm with like whole foods. I had to learn all of this laboriously, through much research and trial and error, and I didn't start doing that until I created a human and I figured I wanted to learn how to feed it better than what I was being fed. So I dove in and tried to figure out what healthy food was. Back then there wasn't Google, so I had to go with the sources I had available to me, which were the government and the doctor's office, and I started there and I fed my kid. Every dinosaur shaped everything If it had whole grains and heart healthy on the package. As you know, rob, that's not really the mark yet, but that's where I had to start. And then I kind of started digging and digging and I found a rabbit hole and fell in it.

Leslie:

Once you start learning some of the things about our food systems and the impact that processed foods have on our body, you can't really unlearn them. But to be honest with you, it was overwhelming, as it is for a lot of people. But I was a single mom on welfare. I could not just go buy some grass fed meat and call it a day. I was really discouraged. I didn't think I was like great. Now I know I'm poisoning my kid, but I don't know how to not do that anymore. So I just started with one small change. I chose high fructose corn syrup. I just stopped buying anything with high fructose corn syrup in it and that was the change I made and everything else I just kind of went along with for now, as long as it didn't have high fructose corn syrup in it.

Leslie:

And then, once I adjusted to that, I picked one more change and before you know it, like my kids, the weird one at school. Everyone's like, oh, what's your mom make this time? Oh, she probably made the chocolate from scratch. She makes everything from scratch. So I went from like one extreme to the other with this clean diet thing. I've kind of landed somewhere in the middle.

Leslie:

But it's been a fun journey and through that I realized that I'm really really, really passionate about this and I really want other people to know how important what they put in and on their body is to their health and their mental health particularly. So I have a couple of degrees and several certifications in brain health coaching and integrative health coaching and I'm obsessed with gut health and the interplay between your gut and your brain and, along the way, starting a business so that I can try and teach this to people. I learned that other people that have businesses and have missions that they're trying to get to are my people. I understand the driven squirrel brain like put everyone else's needs first and suffer through it kind of mentality, and so those are the people that we really really try to help with the coaching that we do and things like that, because I feel like our brains just relate.

Rob:

Yeah, can you talk a little bit on nutrition and the brain, maybe on some focus in mental health, maybe in that kind of world, because I know for me, when I'm talking about nutrition nowadays I tend to, it's a lot of people, like a lot of my clients and some of my listeners. They're always looking for more energy, more motivation. So then I just cut right to the basics on like eating better. But then I started shifting more into the media as well for like the nutrition, the increased motivation and energy. So I don't use as much with the. I don't use nutrition as much on the cognitive side as much as it is just for physical energy and just general nutrition at this point with my career.

Leslie:

Yeah, I would love to talk about that. You said a little bit and I'm not sure I can do that, but I will do my best to just keep it to a little bit. But yeah, so once I started feeding my family whole foods instead of processed foods, it was remarkable the impact that it had. My son's diagnosis of asthma was completely refuted. A lot of the things that were normal, like headaches and bad menstrual symptoms and allergies and back pain all of those things that are just normal for people like they all went away and I realized that we aren't meant to feel quite so horrible as most people generally walk around feeling. So I did learn the impact that food has on your health in that way. But my undergrad is in psychology and I've always been obsessed with the brain and the way that it works. There's been a lot of mental health problems in my upbringing, a lot of addiction in my upbringing, and as I got into this world of gut health, I started learning how connected the gut is to every other system of the body.

Leslie:

And then I found that gut brain connection piece and like like my whole world just lit up. I was like, oh my God. So on multiple levels what you eat affects the way that your brain works. So if you're talking cognitive function, you can start with just the fact that a lot of food colorings are excitotoxins. They make your neurons like super fire and they can cause aggression, aggressive behaviors and ADHD type behaviors. In children they cause mood swings and imbalances.

Leslie:

I'm sure you're well aware of the impact sugar and too much caffeine and things like that can have on mood In addition to energy. Right, you get the highs and then you get the crashes. It's not just an energy, it's often a mood, a mood crash as well. And then a lot of people have sensitivities to things like maybe gluten. That can cause brain fog and ADHD symptoms, trouble focusing, forgetting words, things that oh, you're just getting old, things like that. So like, think of what you know. We all know the impact alcohol, for instance, has on our cognitive function. Food has the same types of effects. They're just sometimes subtler or delayed or you just don't know that that's what's causing it. But what you eat can cause in addition to that energy it can also cause. So if you eat a really fatty, carb-heavy lunch and then you want to take a nap after, right, so that speaks to the energy component. In addition to that low energy, you're going to be having brain fog, lethargy, trouble focusing, you might even get cranky. So those are all like direct correlations between what you're eating and the way that your brain works.

Leslie:

But then you can take it a step further and get into the gut the actual gut function. So a lot of your neurotransmitters, the chemicals that your brain uses to dictate function and dictate mood, like serotonin is one that everyone's pretty familiar with. It's been associated with depression. Most of your serotonin is actually produced in your gut. So your gut microbiome, either directly or indirectly, are contributing to the production of these neurotransmitters.

Leslie:

So if you're having low dopamine, low serotonin, low GABA or whatever, that is directly correlated to what's going on in your gut, to your microbiome, and your microbiome is most drastically affected by the food that you're eating. There are other things that affect it, like stress, antibiotics, alcohol, stuff like that, but what you're feeding in there, those are the populations that are going to grow a lot and those are the ones that are going to produce what they produce and whether they produce things that are making you sluggish or they produce things that make you feel happy is like a very real effect. So there's like multiple avenues in which the microbiome affects your mental health, but we can talk not just about cognitive function and the direct result that your food ingredients have on it, but you can also talk about actual, legitimate mental health disorders being affected by the microbiome.

Rob:

Oh yeah, yeah.

Rob:

I mean I remember hearing ages ago that someone was saying like the gut is the second brain, and I used to work crazy. I mean I guess we're all working crazy hours now, but I would be on the floor strength and conditioning coach clients all day long and I wouldn't get to eat until later in the day, eat until later in the day, and then when I would get to eat, I would just crush tons of just like peanut butter and pretzels and just a bunch of other like foods that I just loved eating. And it like dawned on me one day I was like, oh my gosh, every time I eat a big lunch, all this like snack food and stuff, I just can't focus. I just have to like chill out, like turn the TV on. I can't like.

Rob:

I'm just totally wasted then for like pretty much the rest of the day, and I would get into a period where I would then just prolong my eating and go for long periods of fasting because I wouldn't be able to sit down and focus until if I started snacking and eating. And then it finally clicked on my head. I'm like, oh, maybe I need to kind of pay a little more attention to what I'm eating when I do eat, and that's really where that kind of started for myself.

Leslie:

Yeah, and I see a lot of people making that decision too oh well, food makes me feel bad, I just won't eat it Instead of like, oh, maybe I should eat different food. That does what I want it to do. So I work with people who want to improve their performance through what they eat in the same, similar ways to you, who need more energy, but also who want to have more clarity and more focus and just really stay sharp and not get that dull, sluggish, foggy feeling, either through fasting or through eating the wrong foods. So that's a big part of what we do. But we also work with people who have some of these diagnoses and I have to say for the FDA representatives who may be listening that I don't diagnose or cure any diseases and I'm not saying that food is going to cure all the ills in the world.

Leslie:

But there have been some very valid scientific studies now and some practitioners who have very good successes in addressing symptoms of things like ADHD, even to autism, even to schizophrenia, by adjusting the microbiome. So there is not really any limit that I can see right now to what will be can be affected by tweaking the microbiome, tweaking the diet, tweaking the lifestyle and I say that again, not saying that changing your food can fix your kid's problem. I really feel for families who are dealing with these sorts of disorders. But one of my core philosophies is your body was designed to heal and function in an optimal way. Why not do everything you can to get out of its way so it can do what it was designed to do?

Leslie:

So, even if changing what you eat isn't going to cure your child's autism, changing what they eat can help reduce their symptoms. It can bring them some relief from some of the hyperstimulation. It can help them maybe get to a point where they can communicate a little bit more with the world. So why would you not try that? That's sort of a philosophy that I have. So, in addition to just wanting to perform better and not get brain foggy, if you're depressed, anxious I know there's a lot of anxiety disorders now, a lot of ADHD. I talk with my son he's a Gen Z all the time about how his entire generation seems to be autistic and ADHD. That's the thing on TikTok now, like they've all self-diagnosed as autistic and ADHD and we talk a lot about also the things that they're eating and maybe what they're not doing for their microbiome. So it's just there's a lot there. You know there's a lot there. The science is still developing, but there is some really legit science now. That, I believe, is really irrefutable.

Rob:

Yeah, oh, I got to ask you. So when somebody comes to you and they're looking to kind of get started but they're not ready to dive in, they just kind of want to like dip their toes in. This might be a curveball, but what would be? What's your like? Go to like, starter, introducing Like. Is it a certain like meal, or is it a snack? Or how do you get somebody ball rolling into feeling better with nutrition?

Leslie:

It's a good question. The answer, of course, is going to be that frustrating answer that it's very customizable, you know, because everyone comes with different problems. However, a lot of the problems have a similar solution. So part of the framework that we came up with to keep this very simple for people is light, and that involves liberation. So unlearning a lot of the things that you've learned, both scientifically and emotionally Individuality, understanding that your body's unique and you need to just focus on listening to what your body's asking you for, because it's going to be a different answer than what my body's asking me for.

Leslie:

And then gut health, which is the foundation of every functioning body system. And the T is traditional foods. So the bigger kind of takeaways we tell people is eat real foods, just work on cutting the processed foods down. Eat more real foods, choose real foods instead of processed foods. When you can Just start that crowding out process, it doesn't have to be all at once, it doesn't have to be 100%, just work on eating real foods. We also teach people to understand how important their gut health is, but learning about how to have a healthy gut is a little more in depth.

Leslie:

So if someone is just in the street which happens all the time as soon as I'm like oh, I'm a health coach, people are like, oh, I need to talk to you, my day is crap. So, like right off the bat, if I say, oh, I do gut health, they're like, oh my gosh, I need your help. I'm in the bathroom all the time, or I haven't been in the bathroom in a week. It's usually drink bone broth. That's the magic elixir. It's not actually magic. It doesn't do all the things that Google says it does, but if you have an issue, like if you cut your hand, you're going to first take the knife out, right? So that's where we talk about eating real foods.

Leslie:

So right, so you want to take the knife out. That's kind of stopping with all the processed foods and the crap. But then you're going to put, you're going to like clean it and put some like neosporin or some salve on it. That's, that's what bone broth is. It's like a salve for your gut. So all of the inflammation, all of the excitability, all of the like turmoil going on in your gut from the gut damage that you've you've accumulated over the years, can start to calm down. So, in addition to being very mineral rich and soothing, it's it's just like a sap for your whole gut. And um and once your body calms down and some of the alarms go off, you can start to heal and figure out what you need and move on from there. So, generally, if someone's like what's, what should I do? What's one thing I should do, I tell them drink bone broth. And then the second thing would be eat fermented foods, because that's going to repopulate your gut.

Rob:

Um, what so? What are? What are some examples of fermented foods, cause I know some people are going to. They like, I know it's like sauerkraut, right, and there's a couple other ones in there.

Leslie:

Yeah, so sauerkraut has gained popularity. Fermented foods have regained popularity. So if sauerkraut is one of the easiest to make and the most popular, but we're not talking like the canned stuff they put on your hot dog at Oktoberfest, we're talking about like legitimately lacto-fermented, so the ingredients should only have cabbage water, salt, maybe some herbs or something. If it has vinegar or any preservatives or anything like that, that's not the one that you get. You can pretty much get any vegetable fermented in that way. Now you can often find some. You mentioned kimchi. Kimchi's spicy sauerkraut is Korean sauerkraut essentially, so it's sauerkraut for people who like more kick. But again, you want to look at the ingredients and make sure it's salt and vegetables and spices. It's not vinegar, it's not preservatives. Usually these are found in the refrigerator section at the grocery store. They're very easy to make at home. So those, but they're a little funky for people, especially if you're someone that's accustomed to like a sweet palate. Yogurt is a fermented food.

Leslie:

You have to be careful with commercial yogurts because they're packed with sugars and artificial coloring, but yogurt is a fermented food. You can also find kefir or kefir, depending on who you ask, In the yogurt section. It's more like a drinkable yogurt, but it's actually a different type of fermented dairy. And then another popular one now is kombucha.

Leslie:

So, that's like a fizzy drink you can get that's probiotic. That's actually fermented sweet tea, believe it or not, and then it has different flavors. A lot of the commercial brands also have a lot of added sugars, but that's so that they can make people tolerate what is normally a very tart flavor. So those are really your starter ferments and they're really fun to play with. There's something everyone will eat. I've had a client who is extremely picky eater due to, like, a really, really bad gut situation, and he was just struggling. He couldn't really stomach any of the ferments and then his wife fermented jalapenos for him and he was like there it is. That's the one I can do.

Leslie:

So I just encourage people to try things. It's an acquired taste, but there's usually something that you will be able to tolerate.

Rob:

Fine Simmer, yeah. What are your thoughts on like prebioticic prebiotic like dietary supplements?

Leslie:

So it's a cash cow. There are some studies that have identified specific strains of probiotic bacteria that help specific conditions, but doing that in a lab they have to look at one specific thing and one specific bacteria and they're getting there, but it takes years to do that. So for some very specific conditions there are some very tailored probiotics. Other than that, one bite, one forkful of sauerkraut is going to give you more variety than like a bottle of probiotic pills. So if you can actually just eat food, that would be the best, simplest and way cheaper way to populate a very diverse microbiome. However, I do take probiotics on occasion. So I'll take them if I'm traveling, because sometimes you know travel belly is a thing you might get a little backed up or a little loosened up, whichever the case may be. So sometimes I'll take probiotics with me just to kind of I don't have, like, my jar of sauerkraut with me, so I'm just going to bring some probiotics. There are probiotics in most of the like green powders and things like that. Right now I'm playing with AG1 and it has probiotics in it green powders and things like that. Right now I'm playing with AG1 and it has probiotics in it.

Leslie:

I don't think they hurt anything. But as far as buying them specifically, it's something that I only really do in certain situations. If you have, maybe, a bladder infection and you don't really want to go with antibiotics, you might go get some of the bladder-specific, urinary tract specific probiotics and give that a try. So in those types of situations, I think that there's something to them. Again, they don't hurt you, but you don't really need to take them if you're eating a really healthy diet. That's how. That's my opinion, just my opinion.

Rob:

I'm in the same exact boat as you. I don't know if you know, but I have my my own line of dietary supplements that I started about seven ish years ago and some of the more recent products that I've created are some probiotics and like the greens mixes and things like that. And I tell everybody, like, hey, just like any of the other supplements, it should be a supplement to your diet, so like you should have this for when you can't get the real foods and things like that, for like when you're traveling or you're trying to get a little extra in because X, y and Z might be going on. You put the emphasis there on making sure that you actually eat the real food, because you're getting such a better variety and such a better bang for your buck with real food. Right, right, I love that.

Leslie:

Right, and the food it comes packaged how it needs to be. So you're getting the probiotic and the prebiotic and the postbiotic all in one little package. You don't have to get all the separate, you know yeah don't tell.

Rob:

Don't tell everybody that, though, because then then I won't make any money. Um, but yeah, so that's great and good stuff there. Um, how about? Because I'm really big with intentionality nowadays, like paying attention more um, what are some tips that you might be able to give to somebody who's who is starting, but they might be slipping up a little often? What are some reminders or tips or tricks you might have for people so that, when they are in the grocery store, maybe to identify and find some of these better whole food items and choices? Is it as simple as just setting a reminder, or do you have any other kind of systems or anything set up.

Leslie:

I think I mean honestly, rob, I think you're like way better than I am at this one. I've seen some of the stuff you're up to lately with with routines and intentionality and that sort of stuff. So I think that truly any change that you want to make is going to work the same way. So whether it's business or or fitness or diet, it it starts with a commitment. Obviously, you know, if you're not committed, when it gets hard you're going to be like, uh, I'm just going to go to the drive-thru, I'll start again tomorrow. If you're committed, going through the drive-thru is not an option. I have had trail mix for dinner plenty of times because going through the drive-thru is not an option. I have had trail mix for dinner plenty of times because going through the drive-thru wasn't an option and that's all I had in the kitchen. Not that that's a healthy, robust, well-rounded diet, but if you're committed to not eating junk, then it's not an option to do that. So you just don't make those slip ups as much. So I'm not saying like commit, like I did 75 hard last year and that's a commitment, like I'm not going there for people. But if you're starting out and you pick something, if you just pick one thing I'm not going to eat sugar for breakfast. Or I'm going to eat protein at breakfast, no matter what. I'm still going to have my donut, but I'm going to eat protein at breakfast, no matter what. I'm still going to have my donut, but I'm going to have a protein. Like then. It's not an option to not have a protein. So if you need to buy a box of protein bars, if you need to boil a dozen eggs, if you need to keep some nuts in your car, whatever it is, it's not an option to not have protein if you've made that commitment. So I would say, like that's where it starts.

Leslie:

Obviously, today, specifically, I've been kind of struck with these three Ps that I think really apply to whether it's your health, whether it's your business or whatever. But you need to have, you need to give permission, you need to have purpose and you need to have practice. So we really work hard, knowing the types of people that we work with are the same types of people it sounds like you work with on teaching people how to give themselves permission. It's okay to have grace, it's okay if you do mess up, don't beat yourself up over it. You're not going to get anywhere about that. So if you, um, if you do have Taco Bell, then say okay, well, I'm having an experiment this evening with Taco Bell, let's see how Taco Bell feels in my body, and that's it. You don't have to go oh God, you can't do anything right, you're so fat or you, you know you're, you're such a loser, you messed up again. Or, oh, taco Bell again. I guess you can't. You know whatever? Like, don't do all those things in your head, because all it's going to do is just make it so you do it again the next day. Instead, you're choosing Taco Bell. Just choose the Taco Bell. If that's what you need to do. Pay attention to how it feels. If it feels grody, you're going to be less likely to choose Taco Bell next time.

Leslie:

So permission is pretty important. Like, just have permission to be human. You know what your priorities are. There's another good P word Be clear on your priorities. That's where that intentionality comes in, I think.

Leslie:

But if you do make a choice, just own your choice.

Leslie:

Just give yourself permission to own your choices, pay attention to the results and move on. So there's permission, there's purpose, which is the priorities or the your why, whatever you want to call it the priorities or the your why whatever you want to call it being real clear on why you're doing it. Because if it's something someone else you feel like someone else is imposing on you, you're not going to be very motivated, right? You want to be real clear on why you're doing it. So your purpose is important and then your practice, which is your routines or your systems or you know. Sometimes you just have to dummy proof things for yourself. If you always go to Taco Bell on the way home from work, take a different way home from work so you don't drive by Taco Bell, like sometimes you just have to stupid proof it Because we are just we're robots sometimes right, especially when we're tired, when we're hungry. So those were kind of like popping in my head today. I'll probably explain it a different way next month, but I love it.

Rob:

I love it. It makes it easy to remember, like the, your framework light, and the, the peas you've got there. Um, very, very helpful. Um you, I gotta ask you because I know I've worked back when I was working more in fitness and nutrition Um, a lot of parents would always kind of default to when they do mess up. They kind of default to like oh, I can't always eat as well because the kids don't want to eat this or that and they're stuck because they end up kind of taking the back seat to taking care of themselves because they're busy and then like all that stuff. Do you deal with parents and individuals like that?

Leslie:

Absolutely. And it's challenging and I'm not taking any of that away from anyone it's challenging to have a parent or a spouse or a child that's picky, that, like I have a hard time sometimes relating, because my son's just always been amazing. He he's just so open and adaptable and forgiving and even if I make a bomb meal that's like horrible. He's just like, eh, it's not my favorite. You know, we just like usually can eat it or whatever. So I do, I sympathize for people that have those kinds of struggles. But what we've seen lately with people because we do work with a lot of moms, and moms are really the ones that generally most of the time will put everyone else's needs above theirs and they'll feel they'll allow themselves to be disempowered by saying, oh, my husband, this my kids, this my mom that we work a lot with people on recognizing their own worthiness and that they are or we have worked with some older single women as well who just don't want to cook for one person. But you're worth cooking, you're worth getting a pan dirty for it. You don't have to microwave your dinner, you're worth getting a pan dirty, you're worth making a meal. And particularly for parents like I just want to call parents out to be the leaders that they've chosen to be by starting a family. You're the leader in your household. You're not the servant in your household, you're the leader, and I know that there are kids that are picky, especially if they've been allowed to be that way, or especially if they might have some particular conditions like autism, then they're going to be picky. But when you're a parent, you're called to lead by example. So even if you can't force your family to eat well which I wouldn't advise you try to force them. You are worth and it is vital to your family's well-being that they see you taking care of yourself. They learn how to respect themselves by watching you respect yourself. They learn how to take care of their human body by watching you take care of your human body and even if they reject it until they're 25, they're still learning from you.

Leslie:

So I would say, if you feel like you're exhausted, everyone else's needs are more important than yours. Just remember that you being taken care of is serving everyone else's needs. So I kind of approach it that way. You can't pour from an empty cup to. You know to be kind of cliche, right, you're going to be the most for them if you are the healthiest inside and if you follow, ignoring your own needs and eating like crap, because your kids only want to eat mac and cheese. Well, picture going to the park with them and having to sit on the bench while they play because you can't keep up, or your family going for a hike and you having to stay home because you can't keep up, because that that's what will happen. If you don't take care of your body, you won't be able to keep up. We're getting old a lot faster than our kids, right so? So I mean multiple levels. Taking care of yourself is taking care of your family.

Rob:

Yeah, I love that. That's so true Can't pour from an empty cup. Well, leslie, I do want to be courteous of our time and I want to thank you because you shared a lot of value with your light framework, the three Ps and making sure that you prioritize yourself for being worthy of yourself there. So I want to make sure that people know where do they find you? How did they stay in touch with you If they got questions? Are you taking on new clients, like, how do they get involved with your community, your world? Where do people go?

Leslie:

your world. Where do people go? Yeah, so our website is nourish to amplifycom, so nourish to amplify it's kind of a combination of my business partners. She's a chef, so her brand is nourish and mine is amplify, because I like to work with people to get them kind of getting a better output of themselves. So nourish to amplifycom is the website where the same it's the same name on socials or on Instagram and Facebook under nourish to amplify.

Leslie:

We are hosting a wellness retreat at the ocean front next week, so we'll be a little bit out. If this airs really soon, we'll be out of contact for the most part of next week. We do those wellness retreats a couple of times a year, so getting plugged in is a good way to know about those. We are taking on clients. We do have a current coaching program for people who are serious about making some changes and want some community and accountability around that. Otherwise, you're welcome to just kind of plug into the community by following us on social joining the mailing list I do have on my website right now. If you go to the website you can get answers to our two most frequently asked questions. As health and nutrition coaches, we kind of took the answers people ask us the most, literally walking down the hall in coaching sessions, whatever, and we made videos to just answer those questions for people.

Leslie:

So anyone who's interested in that can go to the website and get those videos right in their inbox.

Rob:

Awesome. There you go, Nourish2Amplifycom and on all the social channels, Make sure you follow, send a message or two, send us some questions, check in, see what they're up to and see when the next retreat is going to be and get yourself into the community there. And Leslie, again I got to thank you so much for taking the time today. You really shared a lot of value with the different frameworks and things and covered a decent amount of topics there. So I got to ask you if you were to take all of that and boil it down into just one piece of advice, what would that piece of advice be?

Leslie:

I would say that that piece of advice is sort of what we closed on, coincidentally is that you have to take care of yourself. It's no one else's responsibility, it's not the white coat's responsibility, it's not your spouse's responsibility. Hopefully you will not make it your children's responsibility when you're older. It is your responsibility right now. So you are the best positioned to be the expert on your own health. I just want you to to take that power, to just step into that role, step into that power and and really kind of own it. That's, that's what I boil it all down to Just own your health be the expert.

Rob:

I love it, thank you. Thank you so much, and we'll have to check in again sometime soon.

Leslie:

And that's it for today guys.