Surviving the Side Hustle
Welcome to "Surviving the Side Hustle," the ultimate podcast for balancing the demands of entrepreneurship with maintaining mental, physical, and emotional well-being.
Hosted by Coach Rob Tracz, an expert in helping driven professionals achieve 'personal development for professional success,' this show is more than just storytelling—it's a masterclass in thriving amidst the entrepreneurial grind. Each episode features candid conversations with leaders who are rewriting the rules of entrepreneurship, sharing their unique stories, the creative solutions they're offering, and the everyday challenges they’re overcoming.
Whether you’re a side hustler looking for your big break or an established entrepreneur seeking fresh perspectives, "Surviving the Side Hustle" provides valuable insights that resonate with the movers, the shakers, and everyone in between.
Feeling burnt out and sidelining your own health? This podcast empowers you to overcome stagnation, build resilience, and optimize your life and business. We dive deep into your goals, identify obstacles, and share strategies to boost your energy, improve your strength, and keep the entrepreneurial grind enjoyable.
Join us for inspiring stories, expert insights, and practical advice to help you look good, feel good, and do great things at every stage of your entrepreneurial journey. Let’s not just survive the side hustle—let's master it.
Surviving the Side Hustle
Redefining Health and Embracing Self-Worth: Linda Cicero's Journey from Marketing to Empowering Health Coach
What if you could redefine health on your own terms, free from societal pressures and external validation? Join us for an enlightening conversation with health coach Linda Cicero, as she takes us through her unique journey from a marketing career to the world of health coaching. Linda's experiences—from owning a dance studio to her impactful work at Virta Health—provide a rich backdrop for our discussion on achieving health goals, managing stress, and the transformative power of dance. Her insights emphasize the importance of listening to one's intuition and building resilience through self-challenge.
Our episode unpacks the powerful idea of embracing self-worth and growth. Linda and I explore how societal expectations can lead to burnout, and why recognizing our inherent worth is crucial to truly appreciating life. By reflecting on past challenges, we gain a deeper understanding of how they shape us, allowing us to be more present and whole. The conversation extends to the significance of personal rituals and celebrating wins, offering practical advice on staying grounded amidst chaos and avoiding the pitfalls of comparison.
We also touch on the concept of intentional consumption, where Linda shares strategies for mindful media and information intake. She offers valuable advice on balancing personal commitments with relationships, and the importance of having a solid support system. Through personal anecdotes and practical tips, Linda's empowering message encourages us to reclaim our personal power, set meaningful goals, and build a life we love. Whether you're seeking clarity in your health journey or looking to enhance your self-care practices, this episode promises to leave you inspired and equipped with actionable insights.
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What's going on, guys? Today we've got Linda on the show. How are you doing?
Linda:I'm good, Rob. How are you?
Rob:Doing great, Just as we were saying a second ago before we started recording busy. And what was the quote you said before?
Linda:Busy is better than bored. That's what dad always said.
Rob:I love that. That's awesome. So would you mind kind of kicking us off and dive into a little bit about who you are? Who do you help and what do you? What kind of problems do you solve?
Linda:Yeah, the million dollar question right, who am I?
Rob:Who are we?
Linda:So I'm Linda Cicero. I am, I am a health coach, uh, so that's that is my current uh career. Um, I work with a great company right now called Virta Health, uh, where, and they specialize in um, helping, you know, pre-diabetics and diabetics um, with their you know, kind of achieve their health goals. Uh, and then, in addition to that, I have I'm building my own coaching practice, so my own side hustle, where I am focused on predominantly helping women and what I like to say is find their feel good and what that really means is helping them, number one, to find health on their own terms, right, so what does health mean to you? We have these big pictures of what we think health looks like and should look like, but I think it's really important, and what I found great value in is when we can take a step back and really define that for ourselves is where the magic starts to happen, right? So, really helping them define health on their own terms, and then you know, then, understanding, okay, how are we going to nourish, how are we going to move and how are we going to supplement if we need to, and then care for ourselves, so that we can achieve that kind of definition of health, that health goal and, um, the caring for peace, is what I find the most fulfilling, and the reason is because it's the hardest and but it is the most beneficial, um, when it comes to kind of seeing client results.
Linda:And why I say that is because we, uh, holistically, I think holistically, but I think particularly women we are we are taught very well how to care for others, right, we get those lessons, no problem, I can care for you, but we have a. We never really get the lessons of how to care for others, right, we get those lessons, no problem, I can care for you, but we never really get the lessons of how to care for ourselves. Over time we do develop these practices, but it's not something that we go to school to learn. We don't necessarily get those lessons from our parents in a bigger way. So it requires us to do some kind of soul searching and, you know, finding help along that way to to really understand what does caring for myself look like and a big piece of that is especially right now is like managing stress and coping with stress and protecting our nervous systems and all those things.
Linda:So that's what I do now. Prior to this, I owned a dance studio for almost eight years, so I co-owned it with a business partner. It's still in existence because we sold it. So go check out DL Studio in Darien, connecticut, if you need some dance, especially for your kids.
Linda:But that was another instance where I was in a marketing career for 10 years and I found dance around in my mid-20s, fell in love with it, just kind of really dove into lessons it was ballroom at the time and then just explored other formats and other types of dance and eventually I wanted to pay it forward and I was working a career in marketing. So I started to, you know, just kind of do Zumba classes. That turned into a desire to teach fitness classes and then eventually I was like I just want to. I gained so much confidence through dance, dance. Dance changed my life in a very, very big way, in a very, very big way, in a very, very big way. And it was one of those instances too where I followed my intuition and that's another really big piece of what I try to work with with women and with clients is that voice? That voice is there for a reason? It's not, and we do, we.
Linda:We kind of psych ourselves out sometimes like about that internal voice of yourself internal voice yes, like that, that, like I should do that or go for that. Those little and those little, just those little moments where you're like, hmm, that sounds like something I might like. And then we might trick ourselves, like, oh, I'm not going to be good at that. No, like, just do it, because maybe you're not going to be good at it, but maybe that thing is what's going to lead you to the next thing. That's like your thing.
Rob:Um so I just wanted to dive in there because that's so true. How, um, yeah, I mean nobody's good at like majority of people are not good at all at anything that they start off to do, and that's it does. It stops so many people from trying. Um, and so I love that dance, like the confidence that leads you to do all these different things and, um, yeah, that's just really powerful, because I that's how the first principle that I teach with my coaching is make sure that you challenge yourself and helping build that resilience mentally and physically, because that's beginning to look good. And once you look good, you feel good. And once you feel good, you can go do some great things.
Rob:I love that there. And I also want to just compliment you because I love what you said in the beginning there about defining what health means to you. I feel like most people think of like, oh, eating healthy, I have to have salad 24-7 and I can't have anything else, I can only drink water and I need to do 30 hours of meditation per day, kind of thing. And people create this idea of what they think is the ultimate health and they're like, oh, if I can't achieve that, then I might as well just not even try, kind of thing. So I love that you help create your own definition and work towards that, however manner you do. And you also said something great too about the learning to take lessons or take care of yourself, because I feel like they just kind of roll into life and they just kind of learn what they need to to get by, and that's not necessarily taking care of themselves. And you hit it on the head with so many different things that people are interacting and experiencing and going through in everyday life here.
Linda:So yeah, I really I feel, and I and I live this myself I do think that for a portion of our lives and the majority and I'm not saying this is everybody, but I'll speak for myself there was I just felt like I was just surviving and it was just like survival mode, but at the same time, I had a lot of. It was very weird, like I had, I've had great, I've had good success. I you know by by like the, the stereotypical definition of success, I would say that I've, I've had good success, but I just always felt like I was just like surviving because I was so burnt all the time and and that burnt was just tagged to this feeling Like I had to check all the, all the shoulds and the shouldn'ts and the can's and the can's and the rights and the wrongs. So now, on the other side of a lot of things, I genuinely, I wholeheartedly believe we are all meant to thrive and we overcomplicate.
Linda:I overcomplicated a lot, I overcomplicated a lot. I overcomplicated a lot in life and there's many different reasons why we do it. You're, you have the way you grow up, your belief system that comes from your parents, the belief system that comes from society, jobs, friends, relations there's so many, there's so much stuff, um, but at the end of the day, what I've, the one of the truths that I've come to, is like I just want to feel good. I just want, and, and I honestly think like that's what we're all. We are all trying so hard to feel good and this, I think, part of the secret is we shouldn't be it's it's less of a try and more of a b, if that makes sense yeah, kind of.
Rob:Can you explain a little bit more of that?
Linda:so it kind of it connects to this idea of worth. Um, I believe and I haven't always believed this, but I believe that me sitting here right now, I'm, I'm worthy. I don't need anything, I don't need to. I don't need anything else but myself and I'm worthy of all that. I can have all that I have had. I'm worthy of it.
Linda:And I think if we can just be in that as individuals, like I am worthy, I am enough and I don't need all these things are great, it's, it's it's important to have money. I'm not saying, like you know, let's all go live in the woods, and you know I'm not proposing that, but what I'm saying is you have your value, is not attached to anything, anything. You have value. You are here. The odds of you being here, the odds of you and I being here having this conversation right now, are like so small. It's so small the odds of you and I have met, meeting each other at Brandon's event. But like these things, these things are so the mind, the percentage of it happening, are so small. So it's like you're enough and you're worthy. All you have to do is be be who you are. And we get so wrapped up in trying to figure out how to be, we just forget to be. Does that make? Does that make sense?
Rob:Oh yeah, oh it certainly does, because I think everyone, everyone, villainizes social media so much because it's the highlight reel, is an end that leads to I guess it could lead to feelings of depression for some people, because then they're feeling like they're not achieving the same, or even anxious because they're not achieving fast enough, or they're excited or nervous about future things, and a lot of comparison happens and we tend to not be present with ourselves. Happens and we tend to not be present with ourselves. And I think I like how what you said about the being good more so than just just the sensation of feeling good. Um, because I wanted to ask you, because everyone's always trying to just be happy and and they're trying to avoid any of their, I guess, negative emotions. But and if you sit and think and if you just kind of go through it, some of those negative emotions I guess are pretty amazing too. Like it should be beautiful that you can still experience sadness and anger and all these things. People just want to make sure that they never feel those, and then you're not even really living if you're just in this la la land.
Rob:24, seven, right.
Linda:Yeah, absolutely no, I agree. I think, um, I think we have all the emotions in us for a reason and I, in its most simplistic kind of um form, I think that you have to have the book good because it, I think you have to have the bad so that you're, when the good comes, like it, just feels really good. I think, without the yin and the yang and you know kind of that juxtaposition, it it will, it would all just feel like this and that's like not good, that doesn't. I don't want to be, want to be looked like like this.
Rob:Um, I always say you can't enjoy the sun without a little bit of rain. And everyone's complaining about how the weather's gonna be all crappy and rainy this whole week. Um, but I'm like you know what I? I don't. I don't mind it, I can handle it for a little while. I know the sun's coming back eventually. I've been enjoying the sun a lot lately. It's been super hot, but you got to go with the ups and the downs. You got to embrace both.
Linda:Yeah, and I think too, you know I was, you know I was thinking about our and prepping for our conversation, just kind of thinking about some things that I definitely want to be able to talk about or just, at least you know, include in the conversation this thought of you know I've been doing a lot of reflection lately. I've been really trying to be intentional about looking back, and not necessarily looking back in the sense, like you know, in a I want to be back there type of way, but reflecting back to the hard stuff, the challenges that have come, and I am at a place where I am becoming more and more acutely aware and understanding of how each of those kind of bigger challenges and struggles have given me the insight that I needed to now be here right now in a more full and whole way as a woman, as Linda, as you know, as a coach, all the things. Um, yeah, that I was. That's been something that's been ruminating quite a bit lately.
Rob:Yeah, that's powerful stuff too, Because I think self-awareness and reflection, I think, is super, super powerful and I think that's how you can continue to grow and get better actually. So, yeah, I mean, that's just powerful there and what what kind of brought you into into making sure that you spend a little more focus, time or energy into doing that?
Linda:Yeah, um, I think it kind of happened, not by accident, but as a part of my I'm. I have a few things that I consider non-negotiables as it comes to, you know, how I stay um on track with with myself, how I stay in tuned with myself, um, and just how I also stay sane in in the current uh world that we are living in. Um, and one of those things is, you know, my morning, my morning ritual, which is, which includes meditation. It includes, you know, a grounding.
Linda:Outside, I put my feet to the earth every single morning, I do a cold shower, but, you know, within the meditation itself, as a part of it, I pull from, I actually I pull from this deck.
Linda:It's like, I guess you can call it like an Oracle card deck, but, um, it's.
Linda:It's not like your typical Oracle card type thing, but it's called the wild and sacred feminine deck, and a friend of mine turned turned me onto it. So every morning I will meditate or do like a breath work, and then I will pull a card from here and the each card has a, you know, a prompt and and you read it, and then it provides a good amount of cue for reflection back, and so I think that that's kind of how it started, and also just in conversations with some mentors that I've been talking with lately and some, some you know, some fellow, you know just friends and coaches. You know, just taking the time to look at, look in the rearview mirror every now and again and I think in the past I haven't necessarily done well at celebrating myself and you know, as a side hustler, as a entrepreneur, as a, you know, even just someone who's just a go getter, it can, it can be hard to take the pause and celebrate because you always want to be like okay, what do I have to do next?
Linda:And you're always like next, next, next, but there is the. The saying is correct, there's power in the pause. Um, so I think, taking a moment, whether it's in the morning or, you know, even at the end of the month, I remember it was, I think it was the book think and grow rich that I read one. I don't do this, but I remember them. You know, the suggestion is that every month they sit back down and they reflect back on the month.
Linda:And there were certain, like key questions within the book that you could reflect back on, to track against your goals. But just to again sit with yourself. What have I learned this month? What have you know? Where have I grown? Where are the challenges still existing? And again, and going back to like the beginning, that's, it doesn't really necessarily feel like it, but that's self-care, that's self-care. It sounds boring, but when you start doing those type of things repeatedly, you just start caring more about all the things how you're spending your time, who you're spending your time with, how you're feeling it. Just because it's right there. You can't hide.
Rob:I love that that you just brought that up, cause um, I'm actually hosting a self-care event next week for for men at this men's um barbershop, slash studio, grooming, and and I'm running a workshop for the guys that evening.
Rob:After a little bit of networking and such and and what we're going to be doing is we're going to be doing a reflection process. Uh, we're going to go through and kind of review what we did if not the whole last month, but maybe the week or maybe even just that day and then kind of connecting it to ourselves and our values and doing a little bit of like an internal kind of check in really and see if what we're doing is moving us forward in the way that we want to.
Linda:That's awesome, that's great and so important, and that's not typically something that men or it's becoming more and more popular, but I think that's incredible, that you're going to be holding that space, and so important.
Rob:Yeah, yeah, thank you Appreciate that. Um, I wanted to circle back because you had just mentioned a minute ago about how it's pretty easy to kind of not celebrate your wins and kind of push it to the side and kind of start tackling the next challenge. Um, because that is, I wanted to kind of go back to that, because that's one you're kind of going to look on for the next one too. But then also, how do you stop yourself from comparing against others? Because I know when I was in high school I would score, I would score like a touchdown in football, and I'd be like so what, let's go, let's get back and let's do it again. So many other people are scoring touchdowns, let's just go. And I robbed that joy of myself because I was like nope, I gotta keep going because somebody else has already scored. Blah, blah, blah.
Linda:You talked a little bit about comparison with others and and what that does well, what's the, what's the, the quote, it's the thief of joy, um, which I thoroughly comparison is the thief of joy, which I thoroughly believe. Um, I, this is something that it's taken me a long time and I'm by no means a professional at it. It's still something that I, I, it's still something that pops in, not as often, um, but one of the things that really do all two things that really helped me One during a very challenging time. This was during COVID. You know, we were running, we had the business. There was just a lot. There was a lot between COVID. I had a hip surgery, I was burnt out, and I just remember that there were two months of time where I had a really hard time getting out of bed, like I would wake up and I would cry, and that never happened to me before. I promise I'm going to answer your question this may not sound like I am, but I'm getting there Um, and I decided to go to a hypnotherapist because a friend of mine was going and I had seen some really amazing improvement.
Linda:I just saw some amazing growth in her and In going to do the work with hypnotherapy, I uncovered that what was the foundational kind of root of recurring patterns, recurring thoughts, was this underlying belief that I had that I am not enough. So she really helped me, through the hypnotherapy, kind of get to the other side of that. But I will never forget this question, I will never forget this statement. We were having some dialogue after a session and she, she heard me kind of go back into this comparative mode and she goes why are you giving your power to other people? Take your power back. And it was day when I am in that, when I get into that headspace which is not as often, also for some other practices which I'll share but that I say take your power back, I will catch it and I will say take your power back. And it just flips the script because it's just, it's a waste of time. We're wasting time and time is so precious. But that was one of the most pivotal moments for me. Number one, because she really helped me understand like where the crack was and helped me fix the crack was and helped me fix the crack. But then that was like just like the, what do you put on cracks? So like, see, it was like the cement. She sealed it. She said, yeah, she put the ceiling on so no water could drip in there. Um, so that really helped me. And then, um, I, I worked, I did a process called the desire map.
Linda:It was created by Danielle Laporte. It's this incredible goal setting process where she flips it on his head a little bit. She calls it creating goals with soul and ultimately, what her position is is we spend a lot of times going after these things, right, but then we get the thing and the thing never quite, not never. We spend a lot of times going after these things right, but then we get the thing and the thing never quite, not never, but oftentimes doesn't feel the way that we thought that getting it would feel and it leaves us a little like deflated. So her position is why don't we get super clear on how we want to feel in life, like in these kind of core areas? How is it that we, how do you want to be feeling? And she helps you to develop these core desired feelings. And through this entire process because it's a, it's a deep dive, it's a, it's a deep, deep process through it you not only uncover your core desired feelings, you then are able to then match those kind of feelings with goals that are true desires of what you really want. And in that entire process, you become also crystal clear on what you value most and what you don't value most. And it wasn't like a overnight oh, I don't really, I'm not really spending my time anymore looking at others but it was just kind of like a result of the process where I became so clear on what I wanted that I didn't care anymore about what was going on around me. So I think clarity helps with that and I think that there's also a piece of letting go this is specific for me of perfectionism.
Linda:I think that I think this kind of perfectionist layer ties so closely with comparison and and, and that's hard, especially, especially, especially if you, you know, especially with social media. It's just a reality of it. It's just a reality of it. So I think, and also for me, I don't spend a lot of time on social. That's something that I am very much working towards. To spending more time, but that is a challenge that I'm facing right now. To spending more time. But that is a challenge that I'm facing right now because, um, not only just I don't really catch myself comparing so much anymore, but just time, time on that piece.
Rob:But yeah, yeah, um, cause, yeah, you're using. It sounds like you're using social media more as like a tool, uh, for different things, instead of just kind of using it as a fix for whatever it might be chemical balance in their brain, like dopamine hits and stuff like that. I feel like that's where a lot of people kind of get trapped into into a lot of things and, um, because social media itself isn't necessarily bad. It's not good or bad. It's like like food and many other things. It's it's how you approach it, how do you use it, how you handle it, your relationship with it. I feel like that's really where you can use things for better or worse. How are you going to feel?
Linda:Yeah, I will also say one thing that I did. This is years ago and I recognize this is not for everybody, but I stopped watching TV like a very long time ago and I very much limit what I watch and I'm very particular about what I watch when it comes to like shows and movies. And I can't tell you what a shift that, the amount of space that it opened in me to just like have ideas, and it was wild. I didn't really understand how much just having that on on a more regular basis was affecting me, because I used to watch all sorts of reality TV that I mean I real housewives. When it first came out and I just remember one day I was watching I was like I don't think I want to watch this anymore and I just challenged myself like I'm just going to shut it off and see what happens. And I started listening to podcasts. And that was like I love podcasts, I can't. I'm always listening to a podcast. So I think just limiting exposure to voices helps a lot.
Rob:Yeah, I think that's huge and you're just kind of going down the list of my coaching principles. My second principle is about intentionally consuming. And it's not just yeah, my background is in strength and conditioning and nutrition but it's more than just the meals that you're eating, it's also the media that you're consuming and watching. And I tell a story about how my girlfriend, victoria, and I had gone up to Montreal and I use that trip kind of as like an analogy for what you're consuming. The types of foods, like your proteins kind of makes up the structure of who you are. The types of carbohydrates that you're consuming is like the gasoline that's powering forward, and then the healthy fats are like the oil that keeps the machine moving and functioning correctly. But then at the same time, that windshield is kind of like your lens of vision. Um, you get some dirt, some bugs and some debris that falls onto your windshield and then you can wash it away with some educational or motivational material or good podcasts and such.
Rob:But then when we were coming back, I kept washing my windshield, washing my windshield, and then all of a sudden we got caught in this terrible storm where it was downpouring so much where we kind of needed to pull over and slow down our progress, to get back, and that's very true too, because I went through a period where I cut out all kinds of entertainment. There was no TV. If it wasn't a positive book that was building me forward, I wasn't reading it, I was just consuming courses and podcasts, and I wasn't listening to the radio or anything, and then that ended up slowing my progress too, because I had too much of the positive and I wasn't. I wasn't taking action, I wasn't doing anything, and it was same thing, though. So being intentional with what you're consuming is so powerful, and I love that. I love that you emphasize that, too with the media.
Linda:Yeah, and I love the.
Linda:I love the analogy there too with like kind of slowing no-transcript and I've definitely gone way too fast and it took me like a few times in doing that to learn that lesson and that's definitely something you know for anybody listening who's you know working on don't be afraid to take your time, take action, consistent action, but it doesn't have to look like that person's next to you action.
Linda:And I would just say too that I get it that people need to sell things. I'm all for like making a buck, but I do feel that there is a glorification sometimes of what owning and running your own business whether it's a side hustle or a full-time hustle actually is, and it is hard and it takes time and all of those things. It is not this glamorous thing all the time. Those moments are super tiny blips and the work to get up to those moments is a lot, but it's all worth it because you are learning so much and in that process you were being asked to step outside of who you like, what you think you are capable of all the time. So it's so worth it, but it's it's freaking hard period.
Rob:Yeah, and how? How do you slow down and make sure that you're not going too fast now? Because I've definitely been the um, definitely done that numerous times along my journey too, where I'm like go, go, go, go, go, until I just essentially crash and burn and then I need to slow down.
Linda:Well, one, I take breaks, I'm I, I, really I, I now I, my morning practice is a huge piece. I get outside in nature at least once a day. I think I'm just very much more conscious of tuning in to my self and I'm also very much tuned into when I'm starting to feel anxious or when I start to feel that stress response, so that I know that's my cue to like okay, I need, I need to take a break here, and then it's just kind of getting quiet and just having that conversation, you know, with myself okay, what is going on, what am I feeling, and then kind of just working through it on what am I feeling, and then kind of just working through it. But I will also share that's learned because I spent years burning and churning and just putting my head down and saying just get it done, just get it done. You could do it, just get it done.
Linda:And when I, the thing that really stopped me was when I had to have my hip replaced. So that was in the middle of COVID. Uh, we were had the business, you know, owning a dance studio. Uh, my hip, just like I could squat one day and I could. And I woke up and I couldn't squat anymore and but I knew I mean I had signs up until then I wasn't. I was in pain for quite some time, um, but it was just like one of those moments where your body listen, your body's telling you things all the time. It's telling, it's trying to give you cues and if you do not listen, it will eventually shout at you and I would. That's when it's like, okay, I have to do something. Um, so from those lessons it's like okay, how can I prevent this happening again?
Rob:It's that awareness. And really there's only two ways of getting that awareness. You either trial by fire and you figure it out yourself and you suffer the circumstances by going through it, or hiring a coach or a mentor then and you kind of lean into their experiences and then you learn from their um, their trials and the things that they've gone through. And I know you said you were speaking with some mentors and uh, people recently and, um, yeah, I mean I I'm constantly, every day, I'm talking with one of my coaches I have multiple coaches and I was talking to somebody how important that is, because that's where you're going to kind of lead them down and if you can't afford to spend the time and going through the pain yourself, then leaning in with a coach can expedite that process.
Linda:Yeah, I think too, it's a beautiful realization when you can recognize there's not one way to do anything when it comes to creating. Yes, there are people who have done things that you can really learn from and you should absolutely but you can write your own way. You can totally do that and it's totally fine. That's, I mean, being a human. Is this the most wildest, weirdest, coolest experience and you only get one shot at it? Uh, so I, I don't know. I've just come to a place where I try to worry far less about, um, the, the rights and the wrongs of like, what we were told, and I and I just try to really define, like, my right and my wrong and, you know, use that as the guidepost versus all the other noise out there, because it gets it's hard, it's hard to tune it out, it's definitely it's not always easy yeah, yeah, I really love.
Rob:I really love your self-defining things, because I find that so powerful too, because I'm constantly always asking my clients when they say, oh, I want to do one thing, or I want this or that, I'm like, okay, well, can you explain that, can you define what that means? So then I can understand the same way, because my definition of success or fitness or whatever it might be, might be different from you. So it's about that context and getting up to the same page. I really love that.
Linda:And I'm curious too, rob, just because this is something that I really find with working with people how important would you say the people you spend the time, or that your clients spend the time with, how important is that Like of the puzzle, right? So it's like, how much effect do you see that have on clients?
Rob:Because I see it like it's very clear, oh yeah, it's huge. Clients, because I see it like it's very clear, oh yeah, it's huge. And that's that's why I try, I tried to do, I do like exercises where we kind of do a little bit of an audit on who you're spending your time with and the kind of value that the body not necessarily like just like a money, kind of value, but like what? What are they bringing contributing to your life being better and what? And vice versa, how are you contributing back to them? Um, are you putting 99 of your energy into different individuals?
Rob:And so that can be a difficult time to kind of take a step back from friendships and relationships. And through the years I've had to kind of part ways with a bunch of my friends who I thought I was going to be really close with forever. But once you have that awareness and you can kind of gauge on how the value is being exchanged, you can kind of, if you make the decision to, you can improve on it. And if they're one of my clients, I try my best to have as much time as possible. I try to make sure that communication, either text in person or phone calls, is as easy as can be with a lot of my clients and friends and whoever really. I try to make myself available as much as I can because I feel like I have such a decent understanding of my own awareness so I know when it is time for me to tone it back down and I do need to need to chill out and have one of those self-care kind of nights myself.
Linda:Yeah, same, and I think too it's. You know, and I don't know if you feel the same way, even though I know you have quite a, you have a quite a great support system, which is awesome. But I also have found like you just need one support system, which is awesome. But I also have found like you just need one. You just need one super solid human in your corner. Um, and that that could really. You know, that's, that's all you need, and I'm not saying you know you should go out and ditch everybody else, but, um, yeah, I've definitely the more time that goes by, and it's very clear how important that company is, uh, for you to reach your goals yeah, because there's plenty of times where it's tough to stick to it and stick to the commitments you make getting up early, put it into work and and sometimes you can even slow yourself down.
Rob:But when you do have that one solid person who's always there pushing you forward, that helps out tremendously.
Linda:Yeah, absolutely.
Rob:Absolutely so. Linda, you said you were trying to get a little more into the social media being around, wanted to make sure that it's not the best place for people to kind of reach out to contact you. Or are you taking on new clients even? Yeah, I'm taking on new clients even, or?
Linda:Yeah, yeah, I'm taking on clients, so you can reach me. You can find me on social media. It's at Linda Cicero, uh. Or you can also go to my website. It's called a life in coloronline and you can find me there. There's a contact page where you can send me a message.
Rob:If you are interested in chatting more Awesome, there you go, guys. You got that right there, and I just want to clarify too Are you only working with women? You're also working with men as well.
Linda:Good question. Predominantly, I do work with women, but I am I do work with men as well. So if anybody, if there's any fellas out there that are in need of some support, come on over, love out there that are in need of some support.
Rob:Come on over, love it. And yeah, I don't want to be courteous of our time here we're kind of pushing a little bit there but it was great conversation. I love going into some of these different topics with you and very knowledgeable and sharing some of your experiences as well. And I just want to thank you too, because I know it's a tough, very busy, a lot of things going on and you took the time, so I want to show some gratitude. It's not always easy to connect and coordinate these things, but we made it happen and provide a lot of value for these guys. I know we talked about a lot of different topics and I really appreciate you going pretty wide on a lot of these too. But I gotta ask you one thing before I kind of let you roll if you were to boil it all down into one piece of advice, what would that one piece be?
Linda:oh, good question, one piece of advice, one piece of advice.
Rob:I know we talked a lot on, like the network, social um, also challenging yourself and being intentional with what you're consuming, and a lot of different areas we touched on, but you would say one thing that was the most beneficial, or one thing that focus on what would? What would you think that would be?
Linda:Take your power back or keep your power, whatever. However that, whatever that means to you, because I feel as though that's all encompassing when it comes to your body, your health, your body is a gift you get. You get one temple at least. You know, in this current form, you're, you know it's a gift and you know, particularly for women, I think that there's a. There's just so much that we are really starting to learn now, but there's been a lack of of understanding and education, especially in the hormonal space, and there's just so much area of opportunity and I think over years, we've, we've, we've, we've felt like it's, it's we're, it's something that we've done, like it's our fault that we feel certain things or that we're having certain health problems, and it's like it's not, it's like there's just you gotta, like you know, there's a lot going on in this the suit, um, but yeah, at any point, you know so, you, but you have the power to change it.
Linda:You have that power. You have the power at any given day, when you wake up in the morning, to create a day, a moment, a life, your health that you ideally want and don't ever, and try not to give that power to anybody else. Keep it, take it back and build a life that you, that you love, cause you just get one, one freaking shot, man, one freaking shot.
Rob:Love that. That was awesome. Um, got me kind of amped up too. I'm pretty excited for that.
Linda:That was.
Rob:that was good. Um, love that advice and you guys heard it from her follower on social media. Check out some of the things she's posted and reach out and contact her if you've got questions or if you're interested in some coaching. Uh, linda, thank you again so much for taking the time to hop on today. Appreciate it and we'd love to have you back on in the future for another episode.
Linda:I would love that. Thank you so much, rob. This was absolutely wonderful and I appreciate you and all the work that you do and all the work that you do with your clients, helping them get their health on, and so thank you so much and it was a real pleasure.
Rob:I appreciate it. Thank you, and that's it guys.